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Are you guys anti-government?
No. For a person (or group of people) to be anti-government, that would mean by default
that they were anarchists. Anarchy doesn't work. Ever. And it only lasts as long as it takes
for some person or group to show that they are stronger than anyone around them. It
always devolves into tyranny by the strong. If all governments were to suddenly disappear,
the de facto rulers of any area would be street/drug/ethnic gangs, former military units, and
'tribes', for lack of a better word, of people who banded together to survive against gangs.
We are NOT anarchists in any way, shape, or form.
No. For a person (or group of people) to be anti-government, that would mean by default
that they were anarchists. Anarchy doesn't work. Ever. And it only lasts as long as it takes
for some person or group to show that they are stronger than anyone around them. It
always devolves into tyranny by the strong. If all governments were to suddenly disappear,
the de facto rulers of any area would be street/drug/ethnic gangs, former military units, and
'tribes', for lack of a better word, of people who banded together to survive against gangs.
We are NOT anarchists in any way, shape, or form.
Aren't you guys all a bunch of Nazis?
No. The Southern Law Center (no poverty involved) and their ilk like to say that kind of thing
so they can scare people. Scared people give the Southern Law Center and their ilk money.
And what the Southern Law Center and organizations like them are all about is money. If
finding a Nazi under every rock will mean checks keep rolling in, it isn't surprising that they
allegedly find Nazis everywhere they look.
No. The Southern Law Center (no poverty involved) and their ilk like to say that kind of thing
so they can scare people. Scared people give the Southern Law Center and their ilk money.
And what the Southern Law Center and organizations like them are all about is money. If
finding a Nazi under every rock will mean checks keep rolling in, it isn't surprising that they
allegedly find Nazis everywhere they look.
I'm in a wheelchair (or have some other physical disability). Is
there still a place for me in the Ohio Defense Force?
Of course. Can you cook? Man a radio? Entertain children? If you want to pitch in, we'll find
a place for you. Heart is what matters. If you have the drive, we can work with you. But there
is nothing that can be done for someone with no drive.
there still a place for me in the Ohio Defense Force?
Of course. Can you cook? Man a radio? Entertain children? If you want to pitch in, we'll find
a place for you. Heart is what matters. If you have the drive, we can work with you. But there
is nothing that can be done for someone with no drive.
Do I have to join a group based on what county I live in?
No, but it certainly makes things easier on you. If you live in Cincinnati and want to join 3rd
Battalion (NEODF), that's your choice, though it's not recommended.
No, but it certainly makes things easier on you. If you live in Cincinnati and want to join 3rd
Battalion (NEODF), that's your choice, though it's not recommended.
Sounds good. So how do I go about joining ODF?
Just contact one of the units (details are on the Contact Us page).
Depending on scheduling and your own personal preferences, you may also be able to
meet with a representative from your area prior to you going to a training session. Contact
the group in your area, because obviously 4th Battalion can't speak for any of the others in
this matter.
Just contact one of the units (details are on the Contact Us page).
Depending on scheduling and your own personal preferences, you may also be able to
meet with a representative from your area prior to you going to a training session. Contact
the group in your area, because obviously 4th Battalion can't speak for any of the others in
this matter.
So who CAN'T join ODF?
Those with ideologies that conflict with the Constitution of the United States or the Ohio
Constitution, notably Nazis, Klansmen, Black Panthers (and the like), MEChA and Aztlan
followers, communists, and other anti-America type groups. Those with felony convictions,
domestic violence convictions, and persons addicted to drugs are also prohibited.
Those with ideologies that conflict with the Constitution of the United States or the Ohio
Constitution, notably Nazis, Klansmen, Black Panthers (and the like), MEChA and Aztlan
followers, communists, and other anti-America type groups. Those with felony convictions,
domestic violence convictions, and persons addicted to drugs are also prohibited.
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I have a question that wasn't covered here.
That's not a surprise. Just send us an email and we'll do our best to answer you.
That's not a surprise. Just send us an email and we'll do our best to answer you.
Do I get paid?
Haha...no. None of us get paid. ODF is comprised entirely of volunteers.
Haha...no. None of us get paid. ODF is comprised entirely of volunteers.
OK....so what's it cost ME, then?
Just like other ODF units, members are responsible for paying dues. $10 a month.
Just like other ODF units, members are responsible for paying dues. $10 a month.
OK, that makes sense. So let's say I AM interested, is it like the
military, where you have to sign up for 4 years or something?
No. If you decide to join, and then for whatever reason decide you don't want to take part
anymore, that's up to you. We aren't going to try to hold someone to a commitment that
they're not ready for.
We DO ask, though, that if you decide to quit, you at least let someone know instead of just
not showing up to training anymore.
military, where you have to sign up for 4 years or something?
No. If you decide to join, and then for whatever reason decide you don't want to take part
anymore, that's up to you. We aren't going to try to hold someone to a commitment that
they're not ready for.
We DO ask, though, that if you decide to quit, you at least let someone know instead of just
not showing up to training anymore.
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WHAT? I gotta pay? Suddenly this isn't sounding so good.
We have to pay for special equipment and outside instructors somehow. If we didn't do it
this way, we'd probably end up with one or two people paying for this kind of thing, and a
bunch of freeloaders who would enjoy the benefits without contributing anything. And that
just wouldn't be right.
We have to pay for special equipment and outside instructors somehow. If we didn't do it
this way, we'd probably end up with one or two people paying for this kind of thing, and a
bunch of freeloaders who would enjoy the benefits without contributing anything. And that
just wouldn't be right.
I don't want to join only to discover that this isn't for me. Can I just
come to a few training sessions and see if this is something I
want to do?
Sure thing. In fact, we'd recommend that you do so. No point in joining, only to decide later
on that you don't really want to be a part of the group. So feel free to come to a couple
training sessions just to see how things go. Though after 3 sessions, you need to either
join or figure out that this isn't for you.
There are also what are considered "open" training sessions, where anyone who wants to
can participate. No requirements that they be a member, or a potential member, or anything
like that. On the flip side of that, some of our training is closed to non-members.
come to a few training sessions and see if this is something I
want to do?
Sure thing. In fact, we'd recommend that you do so. No point in joining, only to decide later
on that you don't really want to be a part of the group. So feel free to come to a couple
training sessions just to see how things go. Though after 3 sessions, you need to either
join or figure out that this isn't for you.
There are also what are considered "open" training sessions, where anyone who wants to
can participate. No requirements that they be a member, or a potential member, or anything
like that. On the flip side of that, some of our training is closed to non-members.
Do I have to have an AR or AK? What about equipment?
The tool isn't nearly as important as the person wielding it. If all you have right now is a
Ruger 10/22 or maybe a paintball gun, and you are serious about wanting to train, by all
means bring the .22 or paintball gun. You can carry a stick if you absolutely don't have
anything (or you can just borrow something from a member). You can always get
something better later; in the meantime, you can improve your skills.
Equipment is the same way. An equipment list will be added to this site, but that doesn't
mean that you have to have it before you start training. Get what you can, when you can.
The tool isn't nearly as important as the person wielding it. If all you have right now is a
Ruger 10/22 or maybe a paintball gun, and you are serious about wanting to train, by all
means bring the .22 or paintball gun. You can carry a stick if you absolutely don't have
anything (or you can just borrow something from a member). You can always get
something better later; in the meantime, you can improve your skills.
Equipment is the same way. An equipment list will be added to this site, but that doesn't
mean that you have to have it before you start training. Get what you can, when you can.
Do you guys like, do lots of pushups and run around and stuff
when you train? Do I have to PT at training?
Alpha Company MAY do some light PT, such as short hikes or a quick run, but we're not
going to waste half of a training session doing things that each individual should be doing
on their own. And everyone SHOULD be PTing on their own (except, of course, those with
some physical disability that prevents them from doing so).
when you train? Do I have to PT at training?
Alpha Company MAY do some light PT, such as short hikes or a quick run, but we're not
going to waste half of a training session doing things that each individual should be doing
on their own. And everyone SHOULD be PTing on their own (except, of course, those with
some physical disability that prevents them from doing so).
The distance I have to drive might be a problem...
We can figure this out. Maybe drive to another member's house and get a ride with them.
We can figure this out. Maybe drive to another member's house and get a ride with them.
So where is training held?
We've been either driving up to Columbiana County and training with 3rd BN (NEODF), or
using the training area down by Zanesville. We're also exploring the possibility of using a
couple other areas, one in NE Ohio and another near Zanesville, and one of our members
is currently searching for property in this part of the state to purchase.
We've been either driving up to Columbiana County and training with 3rd BN (NEODF), or
using the training area down by Zanesville. We're also exploring the possibility of using a
couple other areas, one in NE Ohio and another near Zanesville, and one of our members
is currently searching for property in this part of the state to purchase.